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Yuzuru Hanyu: A Look at the Difference Between World and Olympic Records

I have been asked many questions about the difference between Olympic and World Records so I thought I would try to clarify the difference here.

What is the Difference between a World and Olympic Record?

  • An Olympic Record is the best performance of any athlete or team in the history of Olympic competition in that sport and event.  The letters “OR” stands for Olympic Record which is a record that can be achieved only at the Olympic games.
  • A World Record is the best recorded performance at a sanctioned event anywhere internationally.  The letters “WR” denote a World Record.  In figure skating, the international event must be sanctioned by the International Skating Union (ISU).
  • Therefore, a World Record can be the same or better than an Olympic Record, but an Olympic record cannot be better than a World Record.
  • **If a World Record is beaten at the Olympic Games then both the OR and WR will change to that new score.

So what happened at this Olympics (2018)?  Unfortunately, most tv channels did not properly show WR and OR designations on the screen like they normally do during Olympic events.  This is too bad since it is such a remarkable achievement that should be highlighted for the athlete!

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Mens Short Program: 

  • Yuzu’s score of 101.45 from Sochi 2014 was the current Olympic Record for the mens short program.  In 2018 Pyeongchang, Shoma broke Yuzu’s Olympic record with a score of 103.25 during the team event.  Shoma’s record held until the following week when the mens singles event started.
  • Since Yuzu skated first in the last group, his score of 111.68 broke Shoma’s new Olympic Record and the Olympic Record was back in Yuzu’s hands!!
  • OR: Yuzu continues to be the Olympic Record holder with a score of 111.68 for the mens short program.   
  • WR: Yuzu’s World Record of 112.72 (2017 ACI) still stands as the current World Record for a mens short program.

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Mens Free Program:

  • We tend to be focused on “World Records” and surprisingly enough, there was not much fanfare when Yuzu actually broke the “Olympic Record” in 2014 Sochi.  Yuzu’s score of 178.64 beat out Patrick Chan score of 178.10 for the new Olympic Record in the mens free program.  This achievement was not a new World Record at the time, and was overshadowed by Yuzu winning the Gold Medal as well.  Yuzu’s Sochi free program score of 178.64 beat the 2010 Olympic record set by Evan Lysacek of 167.37.
  • Flash forward to 2018 and Patrick Chan actually broke Yuzu’s free program Olympic Record during the team event with a score of 179.75!!
  • About a week later, based on the order of skate in the free program (Nathan, Boyang, Yuzu, Javi, Shoma), Nathan broke Patricks’ newly set Olympic Record of 179.75 with a score of 215.08.   None of the final group of skaters scored higher than that.
  • OR: Nathan holds the Olympic Record for the mens free program with a score of 215.08.
  • WR: Yuzu’s score of 223.20 (2017 Worlds) is still the current World Record score for a mens free skate.

 

Mens Total Score:

  • From 2014 Sochi, Yuzu broke the previous 2010 Olympic Record for Mens Total Score (held by Even Lysacek with 257.67) with a total combined score of 280.09.
  • In 2018 Pyeongchang, again, due to skate order, Yuzu’s Olympic Record of 280.09 was beaten first by Nathan Chen with a total score of 297.35.  Nathan’s new Olympic record was subsequently broken again by Boyang Jin with a total combined score of 297.77!!
  • Yuzu skated 4th in the final group and broke Boyang’s new Olympic Record with a new combined score of 317.85, and the Gold medal was his.
  • OR: Yuzu remains the Olympic Record holder for Total Score in the mens figure skating event with a score of 317.85.  
  • WR: Yuzu’s score of 330.43 (2015 GPF) still stands as the current World Record.

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At the end of the day, Yuzu still holds 5 out of 6 of the combined Olympic and World Records!  This is NOT a small feat in today’s competitive environment!  One thing to note though, is that the previous 2014 Olympic records were not just beat by fractions of points, they were beat significantly from the 2014 games.  This is due to a combination of changes both to the scoring system and the quad explosion.

With the upcoming change in the scoring system next season, it’s hard to guess what will happen to these records.  My personal wish is that they stand for all time.  I don’t want to see these records broken simply because judges have a broader range of GOE bonus points to hand out like candy.  What will one less jumping pass for the men do to the potential scores they can achieve?  What will the shorter free program length do to the men.  Even if the world records are broken (presumably by Yuzu himself), how can you compare one record to another when someone changes the rules to the game???

That’s a whole new blog post…..

 

 

Go Yuzu Go!!!  Doki Doki!!

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22 comments on “Yuzuru Hanyu: A Look at the Difference Between World and Olympic Records

  1. Rejoice Alibio
    March 7, 2018

    What a brilliant man (*´꒳`*)

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  2. Margie Ho
    March 7, 2018

    Thanks so much! What a great post. I learned quite a bit, and there are more of Yuzu’s accomplishments to rejoice about! Awesome! If ok with you, I would like to share this at Yuzuru Hanyu International Facebook Group, unless you plan to post this there yourself. I will wait a bit.

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  3. smal58
    March 7, 2018

    Hi and thank you¡¡… you confirmed what I thought… but now I have all numbers in just one place…:)….Did ISU publish the new rules?… do you know something about this new system?

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    • sportymags
      March 7, 2018

      The ISU has not ratified all the new rules
      changes yet, but I will try to post them once I see them.

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  4. Henni147
    March 8, 2018

    @SportyMags: Did Shoma’s 103 in the Team’s short not count as a new OR? He beat Yuzu’s 101 by two points before Yuzu did it himself one week later 🤔

    Amazing fact: Yuzu is not only the current WR holder in all three segments (SP, FS, CT), but also holds both PCS records and the TES record in the short. Only Nathan’s 127 TES in the free is a non-Yuzu WR 😂
    (And that wouldn’t have happened, if Yuzu hadn’t been underscored in GOE in Helsinki. Did a perfect skate, but didn’t receive a single +3… That’s still a mystery to me…)

    #Sidenote: The cumulative scoring system exists since 2004. From Sochi to PyeongChang there haven’t been any major changes (only little upgrades on some base values, but nothing influential.) So the main reason for the massive increase of scores is definitely the quad-race and PCS inflation.

    Yuzu landed two 4T in Sochi and fell on a 4S in his free. In Pyeongchang he landed two quads in the short and another four in the free (the second 4T got negative GOE and received only 70% of it’s BV, so it scored equally to a triple), but still five clean quads overall – three more than four years ago and Yuzu got almost 6 points more in his FS PCS than 2014. That’s a huge difference.

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    • sportymags
      March 8, 2018

      Ack… you are right! I forgot about team event! I have updated the post…thanks alot!! 😊😊

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      • Henni147
        March 8, 2018

        You’re welcome 😊

        #Sidenote: Pat-chan beat Yuzu’s free skate OR in the Team Event, too – by one point 😂
        Yuzu: 178,64 —> Pat-chan: 179,75.

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      • sportymags
        March 8, 2018

        Omigosh, I should hire you to do my research!! This team event is throwing me off!! Thanks again, I have updated the post because I want to make sure to recognize Patrick’s achievement too!!

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  5. Bruna T
    March 8, 2018

    Hi! Great article as always.
    But I think the score 330.43 is from 2015 GPF

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    • sportymags
      March 8, 2018

      Thanks!! It was 2015-2016 season…so I typed the year wrong. It’s all fixed now! Good eyes!! Thank you!!!

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      • Bruna T
        March 9, 2018

        You’re welcome! 2015 GPF was the first and only figure skating competition I have ever attended. So I can’t forget.

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      • sportymags
        March 9, 2018

        Lucky you!! 😊

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  6. Kasvini Muniandy
    March 8, 2018

    Wow.. Thank you for the numbers and I really appreciate the journalism you have done here to list out all the records. Thank you!

    Indeed, the sport had changed from the days of the 6.0 to points. Hmm.. there are pros and cons. Dick Button did say that the numbers don’t matter, it’s the skating. However, sometimes the numbers push athletes to try more difficult techniques. I just wish more objectivity is practised in the scoring system. For example, Jin Boyang’s quad lutz received only a slightly better GOE score compared to other skaters’ GOE for the quad lutz. A closer inspection shows how much better Jin Boyang’s execution was. It’s a bit… unfair to him since he did it so well.

    I do do hope Yuzu’s hard work is rewarded more, especially the transitions in and out of jumps. Even as a newcomer, I can, with the help of expert commentary and explanations, understand and appreciate the difficulty of the steps and transitions.

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  7. Kasvini Muniandy
    March 8, 2018

    Oh.. I forgot to add…

    Regardless of the points.. no record can ever ever ever come close to recording the might and beauty of a legendary skater called Hanyu Yuzuru who touched the hearts of millions.. 😉

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  8. Henni147
    March 8, 2018

    Short calculation that made my mouth drop:

    Nathan Chen, FS Olympics 2018 (total score 215,08):
    Jump BV: 99,01
    Jump GOE: 7,67

    The quality (GOE) made up only 7,2% of his total jump score. That’s ridiculous. And it get’s even better:

    Jumps (BV+GOE)/TES: 83,6% (spins and sequences together are the rest ~ 16,4%)

    Jumps/TSS (TES+PCS): 49,6%

    To sum it up: literally half of Nathan’s programme content is jumping. I expected a high percentage from the beginning but not to that extent… 😲😲😲

    Would be interesting to compare with triple jumpers like Jason or Misha…

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  9. floatyourboat
    March 14, 2018

    Hi! I’m a new fan of Yuzu’s and I’m very keen on seeing him in competition! What do you think are the comps he’s likely to partake in for the next season? Do you think he will be around for the 2019-2020 season?

    Also, do you think he will participate in the 2019 4CC?

    Thanks!

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    • sportymags
      March 14, 2018

      Hi there. Anyone’s guess is as good as mine for GP events next season. I suspect NHK and either SC or SA. I think Yuzu will stick around until he achieves his quad axel goal or if heaven forbid, injuries make a different decision for him. 2019 4CC….depends on his health….usually Yuzu does not like to withdraw from any competition unless he is basically forced to. Hope you get to see him in person, it’s the most thrilling thing ever!!!

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      • Henni147
        March 15, 2018

        I think, Yuzu’s GP assignments will also depend on the distribution of the Top 6. Yuzu is not among the 12 best skaters in the current GP standings (he’s ranked 14th), so he needs a special invitation for his second GP as far as I know (shouldn’t be a problem for the GOAT, though 😂)

        It’s also very likely that the next season’s GP announcement will be later than usual. Don’t think, it will take place before the official presentation of the new judging system (everything – the programmes, strategies and layouts will depend on the new rules and changes).
        Just one example: If the number of quads is limited to three, Yuzu might be ok with Nathan or Boyang competing in the same event – still far from easy to beat, but not a forlorn hope. If Nathan is allowed to jump five or six quads, I don’t think, he would be Yuzu’s first choice 😂😂😂

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